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. joining us is steve clemmons. he writes at the washington note and atlantic magazine. steve is also a former policy adviser for new mexico senator jeff bingaman. thank you for being here. >> great to be with you rachel. >> am i being naive to think this was going to pass? >> a lot of people thought it was going to pass. of all the treaties, this would be the easiest to pass. there were other treaties pending. this is about people in need and it didn't. this is a branch of the gop that did you want represent all republicans, but it's the obnoxious nationalist wing that really resents any international deal making. there's a lot of worry not just about people with with disabilities, but all the other trea treaties that position the united states and show that it can be the primary sculptor of global affairs, and we're defecting from that as of today's vote. >> so 126 countries ratifying this, but us, not ratifying it. particularly when it's modelled on our law. that takes us out of a global leadership role? >> it leaves a void that the united states is walking away from the responsibi
to happen. >> do you remember when steve brought seagate private. it was brimming with cash. raised the dividend next week. why doesn't michael dell pay out a special dividend and everyone is thrilled. >> fundamentals are still what? >> fundamentals are -- i mean, look. fundamentals depend upon a belief that the personal computer is going to be with us for a long time and is not that much in decline. ipad will not crush it. i don't know. >> why not redistrict some of that free cash flow and that cash into an area where you think you can attain real growth. try to recreate the company in some sort of significant way. >> i think that -- >> it's not easy to do that by the way. >> as rivals have discovered. >> maybe you want them to go into the pharmaceutical business. allerg allergen's weight loss business is for sale. not a lot of synergy there. you can't find growth in the personal computer business. it doesn't exist. >> maybe you could figure -- you'll carry it around on your ipad, maybe there's more synergy than you think. >> maybe he should take the cash and buy a lot of apple sto
.s., but there could be some questions about china, remember that report from steve milanovich? he said apple needs to come up within some real innovations, you need to have some clarity on the pipeline, and you need geographic -- clearance to go into china? yes, it got it with two of the smaller carriers. china confirms talks with apple. but the problem here, he says tech is not an issue, it's mainly about the business model and benefit sharing issues. that could be a problem. >> he is also playing the part of what many analysts are doing, which is let me explain why it's going down, in the same way that the death cross, i always love the death cross, this is a technical term. i can think of a million reasons to sell it. the only reason i want to own it is because it makes the best products in the world and it's inexpensive. >> that's a lot of people looking at the chart. >> look again, the people who own apple, they were the ones who owned it because it was going up. it reminds me very much in 1999, what do i do with my nortel, it's at 110. in the meantime, roth, the ceo gives a session, an off t
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